@stuckinarut2 I'm not going to donate my money to WT since I fear for their spiritual welfare if they acquire too much wealth. Everyone: follow suit. You're only an accomplice to this sin if you continue to feed those seven fat cats more money.
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Seeking Riches That Are True
by NJ501 inyour thoughts on today's watchtower?.
can you explain?.
how can material possessions be used to strengthen our friendship with god?
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The Gentile Times Reconsidered Recommendation
by Jules Saturn ini've been trying to get my hands on this book and read a review that i thought was interesting.
an anonymous person reviewed the book on barnes and noble and said .
"jonsson book deals with babylonian tablets.
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@Jules Saturn Good on you. Never stop learning. Keep on operating hungrily on the margins of this potentially great harvest of knowledge, truth and wisdom. What you can learn in one month with an open mind is more than one learns in a lifetime of intensive (albeit close-minded) study as a WT slave.
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The Gentile Times Reconsidered Recommendation
by Jules Saturn ini've been trying to get my hands on this book and read a review that i thought was interesting.
an anonymous person reviewed the book on barnes and noble and said .
"jonsson book deals with babylonian tablets.
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I have Sign of the Last Days: When? by Carl Olof Jonsson and it was pretty solid. While I can't weigh in on his other book, I just want to say I appreciate your intellectual honesty and fairness when it comes to exploring all sides of an argument/idea.
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Don't forget the Dynamic Hepnotics. Their 1985 hit entitled Gotta be the Wrong (Way to Love) is a title that sums up WT's twisted conditional love:
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Demonic content being used in the "Remember the Wife of Lot" video?
by The Fall Guy insadly it's in german, but i've been reliably informed of the crucial relevance of the moon, butterflies, owls, geckos, & mirrors in spiritistic practices - all featured in the "slave's" offering!
perhaps someone with a knowledge of german can provide a more detailed analysis.. according to this guy's forensic examination of the video, it uses spiritistic practices and symbolism repeatedly.
far too much to be a coincidence?
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@sparrowdown When my father was an elder, he was wonderful with illustrations and props for his talks and meeting parts. One time, he approached the platform with a handmade cross around his neck (which he welded together for his part) to act as a priest, or something. The backlash, "stumbling" and talking to that he got after that part was prolific. Poor man just wanted to bring the Tuesday night meeting to life. Always has worked hard to do so. His efforts were not appreciated by the rest of the Body.
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Need help with a reference dealing with the Generations and SPLAINE
by ttdtt inwhen originally explaining the "new generations" splaine used the example of joseph and his brothers.. he backed up the time difference between the original anointed, and the new ones by using what he said was a big age difference between the youngest "joseph" and his oldest brothers.. then more recently in a jw broadcast - he said that there was not a big age difference between joseph and his oldest brother.. can any one help me find both those, please?.
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Hey @ttdtt I know what it's like to lose a valuable reference you heard/read in passing. I've done a little digging for you. David Splane hosted Broadcasting 12 when he did the "overlapping generation" spiel. You say he contradicted himself in a more recent Broadcasting episode. I've gone through all the episodes, and it appears that he's only ever hosted episode 12 (I could be missing something and he did appear on a later episode). Are you sure you heard him speak of the Joseph/Benjamin age gap again on the Broadcast? Or is it possible it was a Morning Worship clip, or something similar?
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Judge orders Jehovah’s Witness to release molestation files
by cobweb inhttps://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/aug/30/citylights-judge-orders-jehovahs-witness-release/#.
judge orders jehovah’s witness to release molestation files.
eighteen years of horror in linda vista.
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Jesus wouldn't tolerate those who hindered the children coming to him. I think what WT is doing constitutes as GRIEVING THE HOLY SPIRIT... by their OWN F*CKING DOCTRINE. There's no salvation for these pedophile enabling maggots. And deep down, they know it. I think the GB have the mentality of, "if we're going down, then the rest of you are coming down with us."
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Pioneers Living With Married Couple
by msecodo inso ... situation:.
a baptized married couple, with no privileges that we know of, have opened their home to 2 unmarried regular pioneers because of the pioneers' financial issues (limited income).. - husband works from home.
- wife doesn't work and stays home or in service.
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@Drearyweather The elders might cite "brazen conduct" as their all-encompassing reason (eg: reg. pioneers didn't heed elders' counsel).
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JW.ORG logica: I don't get it
by Gorbatchov ina dutch saying is "am i that smart or are you so stupid".. watching this jw.org movie about god's name made me use it: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtimafdp7m.
jw broadcasting june 2015, 15 seconds cut.. geoffrey jackson is proud that jw.org is using god's name.. then he convinced that jw.org does not know exactly what god's name is.. then he convinced that jw.org uses the name jehovah because it's most common recognized in english.. is this reasonable, asks geoffrey... yes!
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For kicks, everyone should start calling him Joffrey Jackson. See if he gets frustrated with the mispronunciation. In all honesty, he'd probably choose to be called Sir Governing Body than Joffrey. Makes you think "Jehovah" would prefer we address him by his title, God, instead of this 13th century Frankenstein of a name.
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Help Finding Poster's Challenge
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inhey guys,.
i've been trying hard to locate a comment that was posted no longer than a few weeks ago (if that) by a poster providing a challenge for witnesses to find one scripture that states that we are still saved/have hope if we are outside of this "new covenant" that wt claims is for the 144,000 only.
the thread was to do with ways we can wake up a loved one and this particular poster (i can't remember who) gave a step-by-step guide to helping witnesses waking up using their own bible and doctrine.
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YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!! Thank you so much, @jaydee - the comment was on that thread!! @EyesOpenHeartBroken and @sir82, you knew exactly whose comment I was looking for. Massive thank you to everyone for putting their heads together to help me find @Perry's comment:
1. First, you must make the loved one admit that they are NOT PART of the New Covenant. Note: This may require reminding them that they do not partake of the emblems at the Memorial service.
2. Then, you must establish what the New Covenant is for. Matt. 26: 27 & 28 makes CLEAR that the New Covenant is FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS (not only govt. positions like the WT says).
3. Then go over to Hebrews 9:27 where it reads that we will all be judged AFTER we die.
4. Then, challenge your family member to find EVEN ONE New Testament scripture that shows how a person can get their sins forgiven while OUTSIDE of the New Covenant.
5. Tell them that when they find that scripture, you'd be happy to go with them to the Kingdom Hall. You can remind them of this condition again & again over time.
6. Be prepared to remind them that regardless of the time period a believer finds himself in, (pre trib, during, or post tribulation) , after the sacrifice at Calvary ALL get their sins forgiven the EXACT SAME WAY - through the blood covenant of Christ.
This is clear at Rev. 7: 14 which says of the great crowd: "they have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb". NOTE: Destination, ie. heaven or earth has nothing whatsoever to do with Justification (getting your sins forgiven).
Is. 64: 6 reminds us that not only are our sins unacceptable, but even our so-called righteous acts are unclean before God if not covered by the blood. - "all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags". - KJV
7. Let your family member know that you are fearful of being condemned by God and so you are seeking protection through the blood of the lamb, similar to what the Israelites did on the first Passover in Egypt when they applied the blood of a lamb to the post and header of their doors to avoid being condemned.
Jesus once said that even if a person just looked at another with lust, they were guilty of fornication. Ask them if they ever did something like that. Ask them if they are concerned about their own judgment in light of Jesus' words.
Tell them again and again until they get it that the reason we all need a PERSONAL SAVIOR is because Hebrews 9: 27 states clearly that their will be a PERSONAL JUDGMENT.
Keep repeating your challenge over time about wanting to know how to get your sins forgiven while outside of the New Covenant. Remind them that they are the one that cannot answer this question, not you. Remind them that personal judgment is coming for all of us.
Confirming the fact that the rank and file JW does not have their sins forgiven, incredibly the WT printed this in 1938 WT pg. 104, 105: "
the "other sheep" are in a different condition .... not even justified".
Tell them that you want to be justified, made right with God.
Remind them that even the WT acknowledges that Jesus is the Mediator for ONLY those who are part of the New Covenant. He is not a Mediator for those outside of this arrangement - the rank and file JW. 4/1/79 WT p.31